Boston E Rutherford, NJ 06-17-1979 Proshot

[dokkendude]

Boston
The Meadowlands
East Rutherford, NJ
June 17, 1979
Proshot!!
Menu & correct chapters
pc authored by me

Video: MPEG-2, 720x480 29.97 fps (4x3) NTSC 5600 kbps
Audio: Dolby Digital (AC-3), 48000 Hz Stereo, 448 kbps

no menu dvd +r>demux w/dvd decrypter>reauthor DVD-lab Pro>you

Rock & Roll Band
Help Me (Shattered Images)
Piece Of Mind
Feelin' Satisfied
Don't Look Back
The Journey
More Than A Feeling/Instrumental
A Man I'll Never Be
Smokin'
Tom Scholz Guitar Solo
This Time
Foreplay/Longtime
Something About You
Party

artwork & md5 included

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b600f6e62cb68d4dae07c8faa77fb46b *VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB

I tried to go with LPCM audio but the disc size was just a little bit too big

Note from Brett: This torrent has been removed because of copyright infringement.

[dokkendude]

screens

[dokkendude]

sneak peak @ the art
the original file in better quality is in the torrent

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/9794/BostonERutherford6-17-79.th.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=BostonERutherford6-17-79.jpg)

[Onfire]

Dokkendude You've Done It Again!!! Thanks Bro!!!

Onfire :rock:

[SweetHomeAlabama]

Wow..Rare find and it looks good. Thanks for sharing.

[Trailer_Trash]

this looks great, thanks

[metalsludge]

F'n Sweet

[philipdocker]

Wow ! Boston ! I have none of there footage. Thanks a million bro!

[hellrider]

thanks a million man I have being looking for a proshot boston for years and years THANK YOU :bow: :thumb:

[frankm]

Sweet !!!!!!!!!!!!

[liquid_steel_az]

This looks NICE!!

Thanks for sharing! :thumb:

[noquarter]

thanks dokken

[zep33]

wow

this looks awesome!!


thanks

[tone1963]

Dokkendude,
Thanks for sharing & Nice artwork as always!

Tony

[TheAmazingFan]

Dokkendude, you are simply Amazing!!! :bow: :bow: :bow:

A zillion-billion-kazillion thanks!!! :D

[burghfan]

This will be my 1st Boston DVD. thanks for sharing this.

[Ballisticon]

Cool! Thx.

[headbutt]

Thanks for a pro shot of Boston. All mine are aud shots.

[speedstar]

Thank you dokkendude, I don't have any Boston this is great. Thank you very much.

[skywalker]

I only had the June 6th 1995 Jones Beach NY and now this.
Thanks a million

[mvo5150]

Thank you, :bow:

[kips1963]

Rare as f*ck, this one!! Thanx a million!!

[atomic_punk]

Thanks very much!!!!

[nast2112]

Thank you! Incredible.

Chris

[hoysy7]

MANY THANKS FOR THIS :thumb:

[deadringer]

My first show at this venue was ELO back in 1981. My second show was the mighty Van Halen in 1982. I could have never imagined seeing a video surface from Boston 1979 so THANKS A LOT for this.

Incredible!

[d1dalton]

Thanks for this. Really looking forward to it.

[mabon5]

This is from that Historic Films in NYC - http://www.historicfilms.com/index.html

that have tons of achive concerts all proshot.

there was a black and white concert of Lynyrd skynrd that was on Dime that got pulled fast when one of the horders complain about it. I really hope more of this film library stuff makes it out.

here the info on the one banned at dime

LYNYRD SKYNYRD Asbury July 13 1977

Live at the Convention Hall Asbury, NJ
July 13 1977 DVD.

Songs Played : Note 2 songs Deleated due to Official release.

1 Workin for MCA
2 I Aint The One
3 You Got That Right
4 Sat Night Special
5 That Smell
6 Whats Your Name
7 Gimme Three Steps
8 Call Me The Breeze
9 T for Texas
10 Sweet Home Alabama
11 Freebird ( Long 15min Version )


Hope someone get this one torrented here



and Thanks for the Boston

[gpproghead]

Thanks for this, I've also been lookin' for classic era Boston for a long time.

Paul

[deadringer]

This site claims to own the Black and White footage that is available on the Led Zeppelin officially released DVD. Does that seem possible? I checked on the DVD liner notes and did not find their name anywhere on their althouigh the Danish TV studio is named. I wonder if they actually own all of this footage that is listed on their website?

I am skeptical as to whether they do in fact own the Zep Footage. Or the other stuff for that matter.

This is from that Historic Films in NYC - http://www.historicfilms.com/index.html

that have tons of achive concerts all proshot.

there was a black and white concert of Lynyrd skynrd that was on Dime that got pulled fast when one of the horders complain about it. I really hope more of this film library stuff makes it out.

here the info on the one banned at dime

LYNYRD SKYNYRD Asbury July 13 1977

Live at the Convention Hall Asbury, NJ
July 13 1977 DVD.

Songs Played : Note 2 songs Deleated due to Official release.

1 Workin for MCA
2 I Aint The One
3 You Got That Right
4 Sat Night Special
5 That Smell
6 Whats Your Name
7 Gimme Three Steps
8 Call Me The Breeze
9 T for Texas
10 Sweet Home Alabama
11 Freebird ( Long 15min Version )


Hope someone get this one torrented here



and Thanks for the Boston

[zep33]

Is this place for real?

Checking out their Ozzy collection and it's just a few music videos. I know damn well Sharon wouldn't allow them to "own" them. Looks like they just "have" them just like we do

and look at their prices - jeez - how do I get in on some of that action? lol

"The following rates may apply:
RESEARCH: $125.00 FOR MOST ORDERS. THIS INCLUDES TAPE STOCK AND DUBBING OF SPECIFIC SHOTS. THESE FEES ARE DEDUCTABLE FROM YOUR MASTER FOOTAGE ORDER.

LICENSING RATES: A standard MINIMUM fee of $500.00 is charged once master footage is ordered. The specific rights required will determine the minimum fee.

MASTERING: THE FEES FOR DUBBING FOOTAGE ONTO A BROADCAST QUALITY MASTER ARE: $100.00 for the lab time and $25.00 per source tape that you access and $30.00 for tape stock.

THE FEES FOR POSTING MASTER FOOTAGE (QuickTime, AVI…) ONTO OUR CLIENT FTP SERVER FOR DOWNLOAD ARE: $100.00 for the lab time and $25.00 per source tape that you access.

WE ACCEPT VISA, AMERICAN EXPRESS, AND MASTER CARD. IN CERTAIN CASES COMPANY P.O. ORDERS MAY ALSO BE ACCEPTED IN LIEU OF C.O.D. PAYMENT.



FOR SPECIFIC LICENSING QUESTIONS CONTACT:

SALES DIRECTOR
MARK HEIDEMANN at: Mark@Historicfilms.com "

[deadringer]

Zep33....goiod catch. As I stated their name is listed nowhere as an owner for the Zeppelin material used on the DVD. I think, but can not be sure, what we have here is a very professional looking and sounding pirate company. Just like that copmnpany was planniong on releasing the Pink Floyd KQED footage and recently got pulled by Floyd's management. People claim to own all sorts of things.

Still in my most humble opinion if the band or publisher are not making money off of a release then it should be fair game for trading. Of course that is cause I love waking up and finding rare stuff like this on here but hey ; )

Is this place for real?

Checking out their Ozzy collection and it's just a few music videos. I know damn well Sharon wouldn't allow them to "own" them. Looks like they just "have" them just like we do

and look at their prices - jeez - how do I get in on some of that action? lol

"The following rates may apply:
RESEARCH: $125.00 FOR MOST ORDERS. THIS INCLUDES TAPE STOCK AND DUBBING OF SPECIFIC SHOTS. THESE FEES ARE DEDUCTABLE FROM YOUR MASTER FOOTAGE ORDER.

LICENSING RATES: A standard MINIMUM fee of $500.00 is charged once master footage is ordered. The specific rights required will determine the minimum fee.

MASTERING: THE FEES FOR DUBBING FOOTAGE ONTO A BROADCAST QUALITY MASTER ARE: $100.00 for the lab time and $25.00 per source tape that you access and $30.00 for tape stock.

THE FEES FOR POSTING MASTER FOOTAGE (QuickTime, AVI…) ONTO OUR CLIENT FTP SERVER FOR DOWNLOAD ARE: $100.00 for the lab time and $25.00 per source tape that you access.

WE ACCEPT VISA, AMERICAN EXPRESS, AND MASTER CARD. IN CERTAIN CASES COMPANY P.O. ORDERS MAY ALSO BE ACCEPTED IN LIEU OF C.O.D. PAYMENT.



FOR SPECIFIC LICENSING QUESTIONS CONTACT:

SALES DIRECTOR
MARK HEIDEMANN at: Mark@Historicfilms.com "

[deadringer]

I was under the impression that this was at the arena formely known as Brendan Byrne Arena but now I see that this arena did not open until 1981.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Airlines_Arena

So was this Boston show at this venue? And the 1980 ELO show must have been either in 81 or at a different venue as well. My brain is shot.....LOL

[zep33]

I got some proshot Rush footage from 76 that has that same "ME-94" or some # stamped on it. Think I got it at DIME a year ago or so. Bet it came from the same place

[kitaro]

Thank You VERY much for sharing this concert of Boston, this will be my first time ever seeing them in concert...:)

If anybody else has any decent quality video footage of them please feel free to share it.

Much Appreciated

[mabon5]

I got some proshot Rush footage from 76 that has that same "ME-94" or some # stamped on it. Think I got it at DIME a year ago or so. Bet it came from the same place



yep that is the source of the Rush 76.... that place has a lot in the Archives

[ron]

I was under the impression that this was at the arena formely known as Brendan Byrne Arena but now I see that this arena did not open until 1981.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Airlines_Arena

So was this Boston show at this venue?
This show is from Giants Stadium/Meadowlands

"Music in the Meadowlands" - Other performers: Poco, Todd Rundgren/Utopia, the Outlaws. Sold-out crowd of 80,000.

[deadringer]

Wow I thought that Giants Stadium was even newer that BBA/CAA. Fanstastic. Thanks for the info.

This show is from Giants Stadium/Meadowlands

"Music in the Meadowlands" - Other performers: Poco, Todd Rundgren/Utopia, the Outlaws. Sold-out crowd of 80,000.

[dokkendude]

one of the tunes he thanks The Meadowlands or says hello or something like that
anyway he says Meadowlands

[powerman5000]

Wow . Looking foward to this .
Thanks for sharing . :yay:

[egor]

classic boston

thank you.

:rock:

[nonantolaslim]

Pro-shoot Boston, what a gas! Thanks a lot.

[mcbiff]

This looks awesome, thanks!

[deadringer]

Just watching the first few songs on my Computer now and this is grewat stuff. Yes Dokken the announcer actually says Giants Stadium when he introduces them. These guys are on fire here. Awesome to see that for an opening act there were people even in the seats behind them.

What a great piece of Rock history to be able to have on DVD.

Thanks a million.

[ron]

Awesome to see that for an opening act there were people even in the seats behind them.
??? What opening act?

[zambdrvr]

I copied this info right off Bostons official site:

June 17, 1979
"Music in the Meadowlands" Giants Stadium East Rutherford, NJ

Sold Out - 80,242 fans Performers: Poco, Todd Rundgren, Utopia, The Outlaws and BOSTON

I think 80,000 fans were in front of the stage and the rest (242) behind.

[petbur]

Thanks a lot for this great show! :bow:



-=to share is to care=-

[mjh]

Thanks dokkendude!

[dlank]

Thank You very much for the Boston. It's appreciated.

Can I assume that the Black and White footage mixed in with the Color footage is correct or has something gone terribly wrong on my download? Thanks again

[Madluv]

Thanks alot Dokken!! :thumb:

[ledheadforlife]

This is amazing! Where do you people get this stuff? Thanx so much for this!

[woerdt]

I'm not worthy :bow:

You defenately rock !!!!!!!!!! :rock: :rock: :rock:

Thank you thank you :thumb:

[dokkendude]

Thank You very much for the Boston. It's appreciated.

Can I assume that the Black and White footage mixed in with the Color footage is correct or has something gone terribly wrong on my download? Thanks again


nope it's mixed in not sure why camera problems? age of tape?
I have no idea but its nothing on your end

[ron]

nope it's mixed in not sure why camera problems? age of tape?
I have no idea but its nothing on your end
I was told that it was a "feature"
:)
One of the cameras was loaded with b&w stock for the event, while the others were color.

[dokkendude]

you've been a huge help on this project Ron I owe you a big thank you :bow:

[RemCarr]

Very cool Post DD, thanks for this one...only my second Boston boot, but me thinks its going to be another addiction!

:rock:

[psuman]

Thanks dokkendude. Looks like a great show.

[deadringer]

Ron,

I was going off the idea that this show is performed in broad daylight. That to me has always indicated an opening act since the headliner usually plays with full lighting just as it is getting dark. I also did not watch the whole thing. I guess I should have before commenting but I wanted to get my thanks out there as quickly as I could while the thread is still active.

Sorry I was wrong about them not being the headliner. :(

DR

??? What opening act?

[scocs]

Another "thank you" to all those that made this show possible --- but I'm finding it hard to believe that nobody has yet mentioned that there are big numbers and letters plastered right in the middle of the screen the whole time.

A tape counter I can deal with....but why is there a large "ME-94" or "ME-95" smack in the middle of the picture? This couldn't possible be on the master, so who put them there???? :scratch:

[ron]

I'm finding it hard to believe that nobody has yet mentioned that there are big numbers and letters plastered right in the middle of the screen the whole time.
The screen shots in the 2nd post of this thread show the watermark, plus it's mentioned a couple of times deep in the thread.
A tape counter I can deal with....but why is there a large "ME-94" or "ME-95" smack in the middle of the picture? This couldn't possible be on the master, so who put them there???? :scratch:
The source that "released" this footage is the one that most likely put the mark there. Probably done to track where copies go.

[acecrisspetergene]

Wow, thank you, man! I've been looking for something from Boston for years.

[scocs]

Is it or will it be possible to get this Boston '79 footage without the "watermarks"?

[Silver Stallion DVDs]

Is it or will it be possible to get this Boston '79 footage without the "watermarks"?
Refer back to the post that discusses the prices charged by the place that owns these films. It said: "LICENSING RATES: A standard MINIMUM fee of $500.00 is charged once master footage is ordered. The specific rights required will determine the minimum fee." So, if you are willing to pay enough money (probably a minimum of a few thousand dollars), I think you can get the footage without the watermark.

Until that time - just be glad you can watch it in any form - watermark or no watermark.

[Silver Stallion DVDs]

This site claims to own the Black and White footage that is available on the Led Zeppelin officially released DVD. Does that seem possible? I checked on the DVD liner notes and did not find their name anywhere on their although the Danish TV studio is named. I wonder if they actually own all of this footage that is listed on their website?

I am skeptical as to whether they do in fact own the Zep Footage. Or the other stuff for that matter.
Film footage is a physical medium. Just like most pieces of physical medium, someone owns it. However, the material contained within the film is copyrighted. Ownership of the film itself and the copyrighted material contained within are two separate things.

It's very likely that this place does own the actual films.

[kerryo]

Thanks...can't wait to watch.

[ffoner]

Randy,

A couple of purely hypothetical questions. Say I wanted to fork over the cash. What are Tom S. rights? Could he or any other member of the band stop me from buying a copy? Similarly, if I contacted the production company who did the Oakland 81 VH vids (the name of the company is listed somewhere in the credits), could I get them to send me a mint copy?

ffoner

[facedownincabo]

One of my personal "Holy Grails" has been found! Thank you for sharing :thumb:

[mwjay64]

Can't say that I'm a big Boston fan, enough though
that this opportunity can not be passed by.........

Another amazing job - great work as usual, DD!!!

Thanks for this rare gem!!!!

:bow:

[Silver Stallion DVDs]

Randy,
A couple of purely hypothetical questions. Say I wanted to fork over the cash. What are Tom S. rights? Could he or any other member of the band stop me from buying a copy? I think it depends mostly on the agreement (contract) at the time it was filmed. It could be a deal where the filmers got all rights to the film and can do whatever they want with it. Or the band could have complete distribution rights. Or it could be a situation where one has limited distribution rights (where they can broadcast it in theaters - but not release in on VHS or DVD, or something like that).

Similarly, if I contacted the production company who did the Oakland 81 VH vids (the name of the company is listed somewhere in the credits), could I get them to send me a mint copy?

ffoner
Same response as before...

And it all gets really mired up when you get situations like Van Halen's - where there are probably multiple parties who have ownership - not all of whom are necessarily on speaking terms - but all would have to come to an agreement before something could be done with it.

Randy

[steviey1972]

Thanks a lot!! Boston rules!!

[poopee]

Thanks so much! Any chance of you seeding that Bob Seger show that you have?? My dad took me to that tour when I was 10... It would bring back some memories!

[JACK vh]

great

[JARO]

Muchas gracias amigo!~

Great post Dokken!~ Fuck yeah!

I too have been looking for some of this for quite a while!!! :thumb:

[Dr.Butcher]

wow ..boston proshot from back in the day.well i have to share my sentiments with everyone else here and say thanx alot for sharing this one.

[RUSH30YEARS+]

wow. what a find dokkendude.

[dylanfree]

Thanks for this show!
While I am EXTREMELY PSYCHED to have ANY Boston footage whatsoever (so, thank you to the uploader!), I must say how disappointed I was with the performance!
Having never seen or heard Boston live, I am left wondering - were they always this much of a trainwreck live?
Anyone know if their performances were usually this sub-par?
Every song drags at half tempo and the bass player misses half of his cues?!

Anyways, SERIOUSLY, thanks for this disc...it's cool just to have footage of the band.

[Silver Stallion DVDs]

Thanks for this show!
While I am EXTREMELY PSYCHED to have ANY Boston footage whatsoever (so, thank you to the uploader!), I must say how disappointed I was with the performance!
Having never seen or heard Boston live, I am left wondering - were they always this much of a trainwreck live?
Anyone know if their performances were usually this sub-par?
Every song drags at half tempo and the bass player misses half of his cues?!

Anyways, SERIOUSLY, thanks for this disc...it's cool just to have footage of the band.
Boston was basically a one hit wonder (that one hit being their first album - which spawned several hit singles). The second album did OK, but it was pretty much a repeat of the first album, and the only reason people bought it was because of the first album. And the third album... that came out eight years after the second album, was way too late to make an impact and didn't do much.

But if you were a teen in the '70s and you liked rock 'n' roll music, it's pretty much guaranteed that you knew Boston's first album by heart. They were huge for a 2-3 year period.

As far as the live show goes... Boston was never known for great live shows. They made their mark in the studio on the first album, and that's pretty much where their careers started and ended.

[trampled]

this looks awesome - I love seeing bands in their heyday

thanks for the 70's era Boston!

[powerman5000]

Wow , what an amazing show . These guys are on fire .
Why has'nt this been officially released ?
What a sin .
Thanks for sharing :yay:

[HDvorak]

Nice find! Saw the beantown rockers back in 87.

[smagin]

Great show. Thanks.

[relliot]

What a great find! :rock: I saw Boston twice in '79. Once at the Charlotte Coliseum with Sammy Hagar as the warm-up, and then at the old Memorial Stadium later in the Summer with Poco and ARS. There is a reason for the Headline act playing in the daylight. The start time for the show had to be moved up so that it ended at 10 pm. This was because of the Ted Nugent concert the year before where a riot started during Motor City Madhouse. Nothing like baking in the Summer sun all day. :drunk: Also , the country was still reeling from the Cinci Who show which slowly marked the end of large gen. admission concerts. As far as the performance itself, you have to keep in mind the sound systems were primitive (and very loud) and Boston was a studio band. Thanks so much for this and anything else that comes from the 70's.

[gottahavit]

WOW,

Never knew this existed on Video !!

PLEASE keep SEEDING i just started !!

MUCH MUCH THanks for this Share !!

Gottahavit :-)

[gqdaddy]

Thanks DokkenDude!
Looks like I'm at about 95.6% on the download. Will leave this seeding for others for the next couple of days. Thanks for the show! :thumb:

[RevolutionMan]

this is a gem and a super rarity.

also it is very ridiculous to read how some of you are complaining about the quality or the time track yadda yadda. that is outrageous considering the fact that this is the only known live pro shot footage of the classic boston lineup ever to circulate as the videos for more than a feeling, dont look back, and foreplay/longtime are only promos. i believe there is some 8mm footage of them on the dont look back tour going around as well but this is the only pro shot footage availible in the history of this great band (classic lineup though).
to have some of you complain is downright stupid.

oh ya sorry i forgot to add that the man ill never be promo was shot live as well but that is about it.

[Deepsnake]

Thanks!

[angusmcfly]

Thanks!!!

[nonsuchpro]

Amazing... cant believe this stuff is available, never seen it anywhere!
Thanks a million :)

Nonny

[rsauye]

this is great need more boston
they are a one of the best bands around

[Belexes]

I grabbed this over on Dime before it apparently was banned? Why? This is no different than the Rush '76 video from Passaic which has been seeded on Dime a couple of times with no issues.

In any case, since I can't thank the seeder on Dime, Thank you HERE!

[zombozombo]

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[fatby]

I'm still seeding if there are any stragglers out there.

This is awesome footage. Get it........

[Webrat]

I can't miss it.

A million thanks!!!! :rock:

[gampy]

Howdy,

Thanx so much for this Boston footage. I'm looking forward to viewing the band; I've only ever "heard" them . . . .

[Webrat]

What is that stupid ME-94 and ME-95 right in the middle of the screen through the whole concert?? It really annoys me http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/t/steamed.gif
Thanks anyway ;)

[ron]

What is that stupid ME-94 and ME-95 right in the middle of the screen through the whole concert?? It really annoys me
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_watermarking

[Webrat]

Thanks but I already knew what "watermarking" is.

Making such a huge watermark right in the middle of the screen -all concert long- is the most stupid thing I have ever seen. It is really annoying.

Greetz.

[ron]

Thanks but I already knew what "watermarking" is.

Making such a huge watermark right in the middle of the screen -all concert long- is the most stupid thing I have ever seen. It is really annoying.

Greetz.
Did you read the contents of this thread?

[Webrat]

ron

I already told you I knew what Watermarking was: I do not need any further reading on that topic. I am just complaining that the Watermarking in this concert is MOST stupid. They could've put the watermark in a corner, NOT in the middle of the screen!! The only aim of that is to spoil the watching of it.

Just my two cents!

Greetz.

[ron]

I already told you I knew what Watermarking was: I do not need any further reading on that topic.
So you DIDN'T read the rest of this thread then....Whatever, have a good weekend.

[dokkendude]

yes yes we all know it is annoying
and in plain sight on the screen shots in the first post
I didn't put it there
if you don't like it don't download it/delete it

and not even a thank you :thumb:

[Webrat]

You get less from a stone, I guess.

I am not complaining about the great job of sharing this, which is really nice :bow:

Greetz.

[Webrat]

yes yes we all know it is annoying
and in plain sight on the screen shots in the first post
I didn't put it there
if you don't like it don't download it/delete it

and not even a thank you :thumb:

:scratch:

And what is this then????

http://www.jamtothis.com/showpost.php?p=36886&postcount=93

[dokkendude]

omg I missed it
my bad you da man :thumb:

[gampy]

This footage is very poor. It constantly alternates between icky Black & White and color. If the whole thing were in color, then the quality could actually be considered ok; about a 7 out of 10. Why seed shit? Let's stick to good qualtiy releases only. Poor quality in the name of "rarity" only wastes bandwidth and clogs up the internet and continues to proprogate the shit to others. That Who at the Isle of Wright in 69 is terrible too. . ..a complete waste of bandwidth. I was a professinal musician, and I've worked in the audio/visual field as well; I don't understand why anyone would want very low-grade video or audio, just because some rock star in on it. . .

Bittorrent activity is starting to be monitored all over the world where high speed connections are available. ISPs are starting to use advanced packet monitoring that goes well beyond normal port/stateful firewall filtering. Wasting bandwidth, while risking bringing unwanted attention to bandwidth consumption, is just plain silly for poor quality materials. Just my grumpy older 2 cents.

[zep33]

This footage is very poor. It constantly alternates between icky Black & White and color. If the whole thing were in color, then the quality could actually be considered ok; about a 7 out of 10. Why seed shit? Let's stick to good qualtiy releases only. Poor quality in the name of "rarity" only wastes bandwidth and clogs up the internet and continues to proprogate the shit to others. That Who at the Isle of Wright in 69 is terrible too. . ..a complete waste of bandwidth. I was a professinal musician, and I've worked in the audio/visual field as well; I don't understand why anyone would want very low-grade video or audio, just because some rock star in on it. . .

Bittorrent activity is starting to be monitored all over the world where high speed connections are available. ISPs are starting to use advanced packet monitoring that goes well beyond normal port/stateful firewall filtering. Wasting bandwidth, while risking bringing unwanted attention to bandwidth consumption, is just plain silly for poor quality materials. Just my grumpy older 2 cents.

you're an idiot

[zep33]

This footage is very poor. I can't possibly sell this on Ebay unless the I can find a better copy. It constantly alternates between icky Black & White and color. If the whole thing were in color, then the quality could actually be considered ok; about a 7 out of 10. And I could sell it for $25 on ebay instead of only $9.99. Why seed shit? I'll get bad feedback if I sell this on Ebay. Let's stick to good qualtiy releases only. That way I can keep my Ebay buyers all happy and let them continue in their blissful, ignorant ways. Poor quality in the name of "rarity" only wastes bandwidth and clogs up the internet and continues to proprogate the shit to others. But I'm sure I can still make a pretty penny with this stuff - just not as much as if the quality were better. That Who at the Isle of Wright in 69 is terrible too. . ..a complete waste of bandwidth. I listed it 3 times and no one bid on it. Thank god the Black Sabbath Paris 70 show and the Kiss Houston 77 show I got from here will make me some dough. I was a professinal musician, and I've worked in the audio/visual field as well (selling audio and video stuff on Ebay); I don't understand why anyone would want very low-grade video or audio, just because some rock star in on it. . . I joined DAD yesterday so maybe I'll be able to find some higher quality stuff there to sell.

Bittorrent activity is starting to be monitored all over the world where high speed connections are available. Luckily, I haven't been caught selling on Ebay yet. ISPs are starting to use advanced packet monitoring that goes well beyond normal port/stateful firewall filtering. I figure while all that stuff is getting monitored, I'll just sell the stuff I already grabbed. Wasting bandwidth, while risking bringing unwanted attention to bandwidth consumption, is just plain silly for poor quality materials. Just my grumpy older 2 cents.

Oh Yeah, here's a couple links to the stuff I'm selling in case you guys would rather buy it from me than download it here
http://cgi.ebay.com/BLACK-SABBATH-LIVE-1970-DVD-EXTREMELY-RARE_W0QQitemZ160002602106QQihZ006QQcategoryZ617QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/KISS-ALIVE-2-HOUSTON-77-DVD-EXCELLENT-QUALITY_W0QQitemZ160002572462QQihZ006QQcategoryZ61 7QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

thanks a lot guys for helping me get the bills paid

and one more thing. I donated $10 so why can't I download stuff now?






there, fixed it for ya

[steffo]

Thanks! This is Great

[enchantgy]

there, fixed it for ya
LOL!!! Great sleuthing !!!

You da man. this guy should be banned from jjt!!!

The dick even uses the same userid on dime and ebay!

Someone should alert his ISP that he's downloading crap and then sells it... Pretty sure that's against ISP regulations....

[Burnout5]

LOL!!! Great sleuthing !!!

You da man. this guy should be banned from jjt!!!

The dick even uses the same userid on dime and ebay!

Someone should alert his ISP that he's downloading crap and then sells it... Pretty sure that's against ISP regulations....


I've already contacted the bidders for the KISS show. Told them that if they'd retract their bids, I'd send it for free.

[gampy]

Hello,

In my own defense, I didn't realize everyone would get so upset at me for my comments about video quality.

The KISS show on eBay DID NOT come from a bittorrent; I purchased it privately from someone in Australia.

The Black Sabbath performance was downloaded from here. Once the eBay advert runs out, it will not be posted again by me.

On an aside, some folks don't know how to get a hold of these concerts. The first few that I got were purchased, and I was glad to do so. Before flaming me and calling me names, why not express your concerns as gentlemen instead?

I have not referred to any of you as "idiots" or "dicks". We are all guilty of nefarious activity with illegal music trading. Do you not remember when the entire "Napster" community believed that they too were impervious to getting shut down for mp3 file sharing? I apologize for not knowing that there was some unspoken etiquette as regards making the material available for low cost.

Some people, for instance those in the UK, pay a great deal more than we in North America for high-speed connections; maybe some of those collectors are glad to pay the equivalent of $20 for rare concert footage. In any case, the defence rests and I will not offend any of you nor break any of the rules of bootleg sharing in the future.

[enchantgy]

What I find offensive is that you sell them at a profit. Your argument goes nowhere if you make a profit. If you did it for the purpose of "making it available", you would be selling them at $1 above cost (a couple of bucks for shipping, a couple of bucks for your time and the media would end up at $5 for a total...

If you really wanted to show that you were doing it because you want to make it available, you could add the URLs to jtt and dime in your auctions!

Generally speaking (and someone set me straight if needed) people that sell live recordings are frowned upon.

I always add to my recordings: FREE FOR TRADE, NEVER FOR SALE

[gampy]

Hello enchantgy,

Well, I've thought about what you wrote and I'm glad to now have a better understanding of how the community operates. I appreciate your candor and good manners in giving me your good advice. As I had stated before, I was a professional musician, and I was not out to intentionally hurt anyone or anything. Thank-you for the insights you've shared.

[Burnout5]

Hello enchantgy,

Well, I've thought about what you wrote and I'm glad to now have a better understanding of how the community operates. I appreciate your candor and good manners in giving me your good advice. As I had stated before, I was a professional musician, and I was not out to intentionally hurt anyone or anything. Thank-you for the insights you've shared.


What are the chances you're gonna forgo that $81.00 winning bid for the KISS video and let the guy have it for the cost of a disc + shipping? As a musician myself (in New Orleans, no less) I understand the value of a dollar, but know selling is considered an unforgivable sin here.

[brismit]

Hello,

In my own defense, I didn't realize everyone would get so upset at me for my comments about video quality.

The KISS show on eBay DID NOT come from a bittorrent; I purchased it privately from someone in Australia.

The Black Sabbath performance was downloaded from here. Once the eBay advert runs out, it will not be posted again by me.

On an aside, some folks don't know how to get a hold of these concerts. The first few that I got were purchased, and I was glad to do so. Before flaming me and calling me names, why not express your concerns as gentlemen instead?

I have not referred to any of you as "idiots" or "dicks". We are all guilty of nefarious activity with illegal music trading. Do you not remember when the entire "Napster" community believed that they too were impervious to getting shut down for mp3 file sharing? I apologize for not knowing that there was some unspoken etiquette as regards making the material available for low cost.

Some people, for instance those in the UK, pay a great deal more than we in North America for high-speed connections; maybe some of those collectors are glad to pay the equivalent of $20 for rare concert footage. In any case, the defence rests and I will not offend any of you nor break any of the rules of bootleg sharing in the future.

We're not upset with you about your comments about quality. I'm sure the seeder could give a crap less about your opinion. What pisses people off is you leeching shows from here and blatently admitting that you sell them on eBay to pay your bills. Did you spend countless hours recording the show, authoring the dvd, tying up your pc uploading the show to many others, just so some friggin idiot can make a profit off it? You and your kind are the reason I quit sharing on Dime. I haven't shared any of my own dvd's here yet, but I do try to download/upload 1 for 1 here and thank everyone who I download from. If was a moderator here, you would be banned right now. And by the way, it's not an unspoken etiquette of what you're doing. It's called having good morals and a respect for other peoples work. None of us here have the right to sell these shows because they are someone else's creation. The ARTISTS themselves are the only ones that have the right to sell THEIR music. We should be grateful to be able to share live recordings. It's people like you who fuck it up for the rest of us... :scratch:

[enchantgy]

The community operaties on the pricipal that we (as traders) do not want to profit (in money) from the music. If we can do a trade to obtain some recording from someone, then fine. But an unofficial recording should NEVER be sold. The last thing we (again, as traders) is get the musicians on the attack. Which is what we would be doing if we made a profit off of their work. What we're doing is ultimately not legal. But at least we're doing the right thing by not charging money for the recordings we have obtained.

As a musician yourself... how do you face yourself when you look in the mirror and realize that you sold a DVD containing music made by another musician, (that was provided to you for free) for $81 ???

I could make a lot of money with the collection that I have. You can call me stupid for not attempting it... but it goes against the spirit of "free trade".

Sorry for the hyjack of this tread. I'm done.

[Burnout5]

[QUOTE=brismit]We're not upset with you about your comments about quality. I'm sure the seeder could give a crap less about your opinion.QUOTE]


The comments about the quality were pretty shitty too though. It's not like this show cost you $81.00 on Ebay.

[zep33]

ahh nevermind

[gampy]

I no longer have any DVD(R)s on eBay. In some sort of militant mode of counter action, I suspect that one of the persons on this forum ended up costing me $$ in eBay fees because of ridiculously high bidding. The bid was then declined and I was challenged to file a claim. It's one thing to "scold" me; it is quite another to malign me or set out to do harm to me as that individual had done.

I apologize for causing a disturbance here at JTT. I apologize to the moderators of this forum. Thank-you for the membership to this forum.

As regards those of you who publicly chastised me with under nickname anonymity, I would expect that public apology of name calling is in order. I doubt that the moderator will want to ban me for a single refraction. Perhaps if I stopped donating, or continued auctioning bootleg materials on the bay, he or she may give pause and consider it in the future.

You can express concern, or even anger, without resorting to name calling. Hell, I wouldn't even tolerate by my men under conflict duress.


Charles

[relliot]

I no longer have any DVD(R)s on eBay. In some sort of militant mode of counter action, I suspect that one of the persons on this forum ended up costing me $$ in eBay fees because of ridiculously high bidding. The bid was then declined and I was challenged to file a claim. It's one thing to "scold" me; it is quite another to malign me or set out to do harm to me as that individual had done.

I apologize for causing a disturbance here at JTT. I apologize to the moderators of this forum. Thank-you for the membership to this forum.

As regards those of you who publicly chastised me with under nickname anonymity, I would expect that public apology of name calling is in order. I doubt that the moderator will want to ban me for a single refraction. Perhaps if I stopped donating, or continued auctioning bootleg materials on the bay, he or she may give pause and consider it in the future.

You can express concern, or even anger, without resorting to name calling. Hell, I wouldn't even tolerate by my men under conflict duress.


Charles

If your being banned was the subject of a vote, I would vote for your removal.

[enchantgy]

If your being banned was the subject of a vote, I would vote for your removal.
+1


As far as the kiss DVD costing you money gampy... I'm pretty sure that the money you have made with other bootleg DVDs sold in the past more than covers the fees that ebay charged you this time.

And I will NOT retract calling you a dick. You deserved the title. As you may have noticed... I didn't do any more "namecalling" but am quite ready to start again if needed. It seemed to push your buttons. So, if needed, I got more... :D

[rjoyce]

Dokkendude...thank you...thank you...thank you!! One helluva find!! One more comment...these guys don´t sound bad. You have to keep in mind that all of their albums were pretty much over-produced...in a good way, mind you. It´s what was necessary, I guess, to reach that trademark BSOTON sound. Let´s cut them some slack...and enjoy their performance!! I thought it was pretty damn good!! A highly recommended post!! Cheers...

[spcdemon]

Thanks for the upload Dokkendude.

I guess i came in a little late , hopefully i can get the whole thing. :o

[MGD TARD]

Love Boston. Seeders please. Thank you. :rock:

[MGD TARD]

Sorry for bein' late on the stick boys. Please seed. At 70%. I'll keep this fucker goin' for a week and then some. Thanks.

[RevolutionMan]

hey i have an idea why dont all of you grow up and stop bashing each other on an electronic forum.

there are more important things in the world right now to worry about other than ebay money BS and whining from those who do it, and also those who complain.

let the music do the talking.

[MGD TARD]

Thank you Dokkendude for the great show and to the seeders. I seeded for three days and will keep on my h.d. for a few weeks.

Again, thanks brothers.

[Steve999]

Hey,I caught on to this one a bit late ,Im at like 48.5% doing ok then zip.....Anyone who could re seed would be certainly apprecaited///
Thanks

[Brett]

Hey guys, I guess this bootleg was infringing on some copyright law, so I just removed it at the request of the copyright holder.

Sorry about that. Let's make sure we don't put it up again, and let me know if you see it again here. I don't want any issues over something like this.